Break a Leg literally made my entire career. It was completely by accident that we released it when we did. We did it for a contest, lost the contest, gained a fanbase and thought, "Huh, let’s just make a few episodes for the hell of it and see what happens." And then it got popular and more popular and—it’s another room I accidentally stumbled into. We pioneered without meaning to. It’s like if Louis and Clark said, "Oh, I don’t know, let’s go West and see what happens...?"
We worked our asses off on that show. We released content every week while filming thirty minute episodes on literally no budget at all. Nothing. No money. We bought food for the cast and begged them to not leave us. Our crew was our close friends who are now a major part of our production company and who loved the project as much as we did. We were ridiculously lucky to be surrounded by amazing, loyal and talented people.
Break a Leg became a calling card. Somehow, it hit a nerve. People still recognize us for it, and that’s crazy, since it’s been six years now. All the projects after Break a Leg were a direct result of what we had accomplished with that show. It has a very special place in my heart. One day, we’ll make a second season. One day.
* The early episodes of Break A Leg ran for about 30 minutes, which many people considered too long. These days there seems to be a tendency toward developing web series with longer episodes. How do you view this trend?
Once, a girl told me she didn’t watch anything “over 180 seconds.” Because, apparently, at that time, saying "minutes"’ was totally uncool. We got a lot of flak for it, but we fought it with tooth and nail. I’ve always fought it. I’ve blogged about it.
I hate the seven minute time restriction. It’s silly. It’s a holdover from 2006 when videos were tiny, connections were slow and quality was awful.
We’re watching HD shows on our computers with weird time restrictions on scripted series. That's completely useless. If it works at seven minutes, great. If it should be thirty minutes, make it thirty minutes, dammit.
I hope the trend continues. In fact, we’re doing our best to continue it—Leap Year, Season 2, is significantly longer than the first season and, in my opinion, much stronger.
In the end, though, it comes down to money. The bigger the budgets get, the more opportunity we have to make longer content. I’ll continue my web-show-length crusade until I get to make my own, seven-hour, Yuri Baranovsky Biopic web series.
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| From the pilot of The Temp Life (2006) |
* In 2009/2010 you were a writer on the series The Temp Life, which was not something you originated or produced. Did you enjoy the relatively uncomplicated life of a writer compared to your usual burdens as an actor/writer/director/producer?
Yes! So, as I said, The Circuit was actually my first job in that vein. But, you know what? I absolutely love just being a writer, or just being an actor, or just being a director. Not to say I don’t love being a multi-hyphenate on my own projects. I’m a control freak, and when it’s my baby, I want to raise it.
But, I love taking a break from our own projects and doing other people’s stuff. Just being an actor, for example, is amazing. I’m like... all I have to do is know my lines, put in a good performance, and I get free food and literally hours of downtime where I can read, or write, or work…? Really? It’s the best job in the world! I don’t even have to move a light!
* In 2010 you produced Road Trip Rally, a ‘branded’ web series for the 7-Eleven store chain, involving a car race across America by two teams. What did you learn from that experience?
I learned that sinus infections are God’s personal punch in the face.
No! I learned that most of Middle America really doesn’t care for anyone who isn’t white.
No, wait, better. I learned that in most clothing stores in Middle America, I am a children’s extra small.
You know how some terrible parents teach their children to swim by throwing them into a pool and saying, Listen, I’m going to teach you an essential skill with the threat of death? The 7-11 Road Trip Rally was that for us.
We learned an insane amount on Break a Leg, but at the end of the day, if we failed to release an episode on a Monday (we never did), or if a video was a bit off, or whatever, there was no real... we had no boss. We were our own bosses. And while we were tough on ourselves, there was no real stakes. No money to lose. No one relying on us, but us.
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| From the 7-Eleven Road Trip Rally (2010) |
The 7-11 Road Trip Rally was a whole new beast for us. We knew we could do it, we knew it in our gut, but we had never really done anything like it. There were hundreds of thousands of dollars at stake. It was hard. Really hard. We had to shoot and release an episode daily. And that’s one episode for two teams, traveling cross-country. That meant our two editors would put together two different episodes a day, and then the West Coast editor would send it to our East Coast editor, and he’d make those two episodes into one, and we’d release that. While driving in an RV. For hours.
Rinse and repeat for three weeks.
It didn’t help that during that trip, not only did my girlfriend (of seven years) and I break up, but Carla died. It was intense. It was trying to learn to swim, not just because you were drowning, but because someone kept trying to beat you with a stick while you struggled.
But we did it. And we survived. And we did a damn good job. My team is, frankly, amazing. Our producer manager (Hillary Bergmann – hire her, seriously) made that thing work, because she’s a genius. Justin Morrison (co-partner and DP) made that show look phenomenal. And Dashiell Reinhardt (co-partner and head editor) probably took off a few years of his life to make sure we released an episode daily. The amazing Daniela DiIorio and Dustin Toshiyuki have been part of our
main crew/cast since we started and are key, key pieces to our
production company. I like giving credit where credit is due, and
they're due a lot. Then there's my brother, Vlad Baranovsky (another co-partner and co-writer, and musician). He would write us music literally as the episodes were being edited. “We need a country song in 30 minutes.” — “Done.”
The whole thing made us go from a little scrappy group, who wanted to be filmmakers, into a real production company. After that job, we felt like there was literally nothing we couldn’t pull off.
We still feel that way.
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| The cast of Leap Year |
* In 2011 you started another series called Leap Year, which deals with five friends co-founding a startup and competing for $500,000 in funding. The show is “presented” by Hiscox Small Business Insurance, which (I assume) means they have funded it to some degree. Did you first approach them with the idea, or the other way round? What benefits do they gain from the arrangement?
It’s entirely funded by them, yes. We were approached by Wilson Cleveland—who had hired me for Temp Life and his Suite 7 series—to ask if Vlad and I wanted to write the show. We said yes, and offered to shoot it as well. Hiscox liked our work (namely, our Lovemakers pitch) and agreed to let us shoot it.
They gave us a very basic outline of what they wanted, and then Vlad and I made it into our baby.
For Hiscox, they wanted a really well-written, engaging show that people wanted to watch. The idea is that the audience who watches Leap Year is the same audience who needs small business insurance, which is what Hiscox provides. If you notice, there are no actual mentions of Hiscox in the series. The branding comes around the videos, be it in Hulu ads that play during the show, or banners on the main site. As long as we’re engaging with their demographic, everybody wins.
They’re a great brand to work with in general. They’ve given us almost complete freedom with the show and we’ve really been able to create something that we’re very, very proud of.
* Leap Year is now entering a second series. How does this one differ from the first?
How many Jews there are in Hollywood. It’s weird. Did you know that Mila Kunis practically has the same background as me? We’re both refugees. Milachka, why aren’t we friends, yet?
Seriously, this is really strong coffee.
You know, I don’t think any amount of telling can really prepare you for the experience of filmmaking. I think the two biggest things (I couldn’t think of a third one), are:
1. Don’t really listen to anybody. You can listen, you can learn, but don’t take anyone’s word as gospel. People will tell you that you can’t do this, you can’t do that, there’s only this way to do something, or that way, or no one is doing this anymore, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. It’s all wrong. The coolest thing about this world is that there are a million ways to succeed in it. Everyone should try and take their own road.
2. Keep working. Even when you’re failing, even when it seems like you’re at a dead end, keep throwing ideas at the wall, keep putting things together, never stop, something will happen, something will stick. It’s really a war of attrition, when your competitors die out and you’re still working, someone will notice. It’s also... and I feel like I should be saying this in front of a campfire while wearing a loose-fitting shirt and a feathered headband, but... when you’re working hard and putting yourself out there, the universe opens up and gives you opportunities. Man, I swear, it really works.